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Catching People Riding Dirty September 3, 2006

Josh - 8:13 EST

God I hate that song.

You ever find that you have a knack for pausing movies at the strangest times? Say, right when the person is about to sneeze, and they have this silly look on their face until you decide they are allowed to flood the room with fluid. I think it's a natural human function. The pausing thing, I mean. Sneezing is just weird.

Luca got a boost in power (it really wasn't much of a threat before), and I moved everything to a seperate link!

Oh yeah, I forgot that I had changed the name of THONG. It is now...


Oh look! I made his face twist! I think he's about to punch this other guy!

Hiya Ouro,

Nice to see the THONG 2.0 up and going. So, first off:

1) D. 715 - Man, that took ages to work out. =(

2) B. Nanami - Am I supposed to answer this?


No, you are supposed to never answer the THONG trivia question. Only by never attaining any points will you attain Nirvana, because materialism is evil. :P

Hmmm, reasons for purchasing games? Well, I usually browse around game sites like one here, and if anything catches my eye, I'll make a note of it in my head. Then, I'll ask around, or just send a question here, and see if its actually any good, cos you can't always trust reviews. Commercials...well, to tell the truth, I reckon that I've only ever actually seen about 7 adverts on TV, and they were all for either movie tie-ins or licensed games. I don't think they're that popular over here in the UK. Means I missed out on some truly hilarious ones, like that Zelda rap a while back.


The only commercial ever to make me buy a game was ESPN NFL2k5. I saw the graphics on-screen, saw that the price was $19.95, and picked it up on my way home.'m sucking up to the man...that makes me a sad panda...

Manuals are great. First thing I do as soon as I get a new game is read the manual from back to front. It gives me a taste of what the game will be like and gets me hyped up to play...usually. I get really annoyed when I get a crap manual...Black and white ones also build up my RAGE bar. I know, I know, printing costs etc, but surely they could at least have CLEAR pictures?


Black and white doesn't really bother me unless they include a ton of character art or something. Then I get a little bothered. Screen shots are pretty easy to discern without color, but maybe that's just me.

Bonus goodies are good, though I don't seem to get many of them. I think the only ones I have are some ICO post cards and a dew random posters. You know, the lack of appreciation for PAL gamers is really starting to bug me. I HATE YOU, EVIL CORPORATE HEADS EVERYWHERE!!!!! It's probably all Bill Gate's fault. It's his fault for most of the major problems of the world... World poverty, racism, the Xbox 360, communism, etc.


Now, now. I'm sure he wasn't responsible for any STDs. Just look at the man. >_>;

Josh's Computer


*swears loudly*

Genjuu wishes to know what games Ouro has left to play... and what games he is looking forward to in the next 6 months.


Well, I posted my backlog yesterday, but I plan on grabbing FFXII, Disgaea 2, SMT: Devil Summoner, and a Wii in the upcoming months. I think I'll be busy for my last semester...but not with classes, though. ^^

*Genjuu's backlog*

  • FFIV (GBA) - before Lunar Ruins
  • FFVI (PS1) - before World of Ruin
  • FFVII (PS1) - before Midgar drop
  • FFVIII (PS1) - before Lunatic Pandora
  • FFX (PS2) - before Final Boss
  • Vagrant Story (PS1) - lost somewhere in the second dungeon
  • ICO (PS2) - stuck on a puzzle halfway through
  • Wild Arms 3 (PS2) - just defeated the 4 guardian-thingies
  • Psychonauts (PS2) - something happened with a giant lungfish and I'm scared. Hold me.
  • Star Ocean: TTEOT (PS2) - before the place with the magic ball of water
  • Disgaea (PS2) - just bought it, so only on Chp. 3
  • Dark Cloud (PS2) - one of the dungeons. Somewhere.
  • Paper Mario:TYD (GC) - the final chapter
  • Skies of Arcadia (GC) - bought it 2 weeks ago, and i just got the Delphinus.
  • Tales of Symphonia (GC) - just after the Flanoir Doctor scene.
  • Super Mario Sunshine (GC) - before the final fight in the swimming pool.
  • Lost Kingdoms 1 + 2 (GC) - Absolute boll...hem,hem, ..rubbish. But I got them for free so no complaining.

Fairly impressive, yes? And I'm expecting to buy FFXII, FFIII, KH2, Rogue Galaxy and assorted Wii games and a Wii itself later this year.

BTW, can anyone reccomend any Gamecube games, RPG or otherwise, not including SSBM, Mario Kart and Wind Waker?


You're stuck in ICO? C'mon man, it's not that rough! ^^

Hm...that reminds me. I got to the last dungeon in Dark Cloud and never finished it because it was taking way too long, and the repetition of all the layouts was driving me nuts at that point.

Well, if you haven't played Metroid yet, go get that. Now. My experience with the GameCube has leaned heavily on the more popular games that I'm positive you've thought of already, and I firmly expect to change that once I get a Wii. Anyone else have any recommendations?

Tap-dancing lemurs?

Hi there Ouro,

First off I feel like an utter nerd but I either have all the games or am going to buy them myself, same goes for the swag ^^;; The artbook was why I caved in and ordered XS3 ^^;;


Well, there will be more prizes to come, I promise. I have a box of about seven or eight items from E3 coming at some point *smacks the USPS*, so the moment I get them, they will appear on here. And hey, Matt only started with the 3 Megaman games, and look where he is now! Leave my tiny little contest alone, you'll hurt its feelings! ;_;

Anyway as for why I buy games, usually it's because I've bought prior games in the series and loved them or they come with free cool stuffs, I've once bought a game solely because the J-pop intro song from it got stuck in my head ^^;;


Please don't tell me it was FFX-2.


Josh, what can I do for you?

You can swallow that microphone! And give my address to Rikku - tell her to wear something nice.

Now for what the Arros has been up to as of late, on Thursday I finished off Dirge of Cerberus so here is my mini-review, I still say the enemies are strangly out of place in the FF7 world, especially Shelke, the game has NPC interaction, exploration, level gains, and shopping for items and weapon peices(albiet from jukeboxes, and yes Vincent casts three flavors of magic(some enemies are only hurt via magic) and has melee attacks so I'd say it's an action RPG just with bang bang clicking instead of hack hack slashing, the ending sequence weirded me out a little, the bonus ending thingy piqued my interest about BC and CC in hopes they'll elaborate more on yon sequence, I'm a bit upset that Chaos doesn't look as cool as he did in FF7, and I wish he still had his two attacks, I also wished limit breaks came in a form outside of items, it just doesn't feel like a limit break if it is artificially brought on, I wish there had been a greater variety of magic as well as limit break beasts but sadly there weren't, overall the game was alot better than I thought it would be, and the story was also better than that of AC, the villians actually did villianous things!!!


Not gonna submit a review, eh? I see how it is...just pass it on to dear ol' Ouro. Well fine. I'll pay attention.

Well...neato. I do actually enjoy a decent hack n' slash from time to time, so once I've cleared everything I NEED to play, then I'll go ahead and rent the ones that pique my interest. This included.

And while in the final battle it arrived... Disgaea 2 complete with the Disgaea manga, the soundtrack, the artbook and the heaviest strategy guide I've ever owned o.o, here's my thoughts of the first 9 hours I've had with the game, as well as what I thought of the manga


Lucky $$%*#*%*&.

I'll do the manga review first

I happened to enjoy the end of the manga more than the ends of the game simply because Flonne didn't get punished, The manga departs from the game greatly after the first few chapters gets back to the game's story then departs abit again, and Mid-Boss is far more akward in the manga, they also never meet up with Gordon, Jennifer and Thursday, and it answered a burning question I'd had after I finished the game so kudos on that, and maybe it was just me but those two demon brothers reminded me of Tetsu and Tatsu from Peacemaker o.o

As for the game so far the story is pretty entertaining, I love the anime intro it's cool cool and uber spiff I also love the song that plays ^^, The item descriptions are hillarious my favorite is the one on the Double Slap,(Sorry baby! Why you make me do that) now you too can be Ike Turner ^^;;, they've apparently gotten ridden of Statistions(sp?) as specialists, instead you have to commit crimes and get rewarded ^^;;, the item world is far more merciful than any games extra dungeons have been before, some floors contain special rooms that take you to special shops, or even to a place with a hospital, new humanoid classes are easy to open up however they must now be passed through congress after being unlocked in order to truly be unlocked, and much like Matt I too am glad the Rosenqueen shop and it's theme are back in action, though one thing that saddens me is from what I've seen in the guidebook, they've mistranslated/renamed the items Marjoly had on her(They used to be Gao's Guts, Myao's Ears, and Crowdia's Beauty, named after her siblings/family/vassal thingies) Now they are Gao's Spirit(and the description on it says He's with us today, if only in spirit..., not sure if that was a mistake or if it was refrence to how Gao was mistooken for a man in Rhapsody) Kitty's Ears and Claudia's Charm(WTF??? Claudia???) but on the upside the strongest gun is named Etoile

And thus ends the Arros' letter for now let's see...


Crowdia = Claudia. Makes sense to me, and looks better in my opinion. Sometimes its better to provide a clear translation rather than a phonetic translation.

As for a question

What do you think of when a game company just retranslates a name of a character for no reason at all?

When the original name is so far from what the japanese one was I can see but if it was just a few letters difference then why bother changing it -.-;;

Arros Raikou


Well, if there's no reason at all,'s dumb. Take Terra. Her name was Tina in Japan. Why the change? I dunno. But some changes are for the better, because Aeris sounds a lot better than Aerith. I don't have a lisp, and I don't want to pretend to have one to pronounce my characters' names. I agree though, that random name changes without reason (religion, ethnic jokes, moronic Political Correctness) are not needed and somewhat annoying.

Why you antipodean little...I'm not gonna deny it, the hair is gorgeous.

Hi Josh.

I like using Josh a lot more than Ouro, because I always have to check exactly how Ouro is spelled (is it Orou? Urou? I think I got it right...).


Hey, whatever blows your skirt up. Either way works! ^^

You pose an interesting question. Funny how such trivial and obvious subjects as "why do you buy games" go unnoticed while we discuss other topics...

I'll just explain about my upcoming wishlist:

  1. Xenosaga III - Obviously because it's a sequel. I really enjoyed the other games and I want to see how it ends. I bought Xenosaga I because of Xenogears, but I didn't buy Xenogears, I played it from a friend's copy.
  2. Valkyria Profile: Silmeria - Again, because it's a sequel (or prequel, whatever). I don't own the original VP though, played it from that same friend's copy.
  3. Rogue Galaxy - I'll admit, the thing that got me hooked on this game is the graphics. I'm usually not that affected by that but it's gorgeous. Once I learned more I decided I really want it.
  4. Okami - Again, graphical value. Then I played the demo and liked it.
  5. FFXII - When it comes to FFs, I don't really have much of a choice. Until a short while ago, the consensus seemed sort of "Oh, FFXII is coming out. I'll get it but I don't care too much about it".

So basically, I like sequels and graphics. Hmmm... I also rely a lot on the makers of the game. That's why I bought Radiata Stories. I read reviews of games I'm interested in, but because I hardly buy any games and I only have a PS2, I usually get what seems interesting to me.

Zohar Gilboa


Sequels are usually a pretty good reason, especially if there was something left over from the first game...I'm looking at you, Xenosaga. However, it doesn't always work, as Alundra 2 was a terrible game, and the first Alundra was quite good. Graphics are also a good thing, but then there's also older games that I'll pick up, just because I heard from word of mouth that it was "good." I may rent first, but you get the idea. Sometimes I go ahead and buy old games out of the wonderful ol' used bin, but hey, money is soon are forever (Unless there's no replay value, in which case it becomes money, and the cycle continues. :P).

Man, time is running out. *checks his watch*

Hei, herra hyvae Ouro-sama!

With regard to Dragon Force, I'm honestly surprised you haven't given it a spot on your mental radar prior to my mention. It seems to be regarded as the premiere Saturn Tactical-RPG, and as such can command pretty pricey auctions on eBay. Gotta say though, even if you're into micro-management of units, you'll still be addicted to this thing. Battles are just so crazy to see play out. And replay is through the roof. But why am I regurgitating things I already wrote in my review of it? It's on RPGamer, go check it out! And read my Dragon Force 2 review while you're at it!


Oh fine. Sheesh.

*goes to read*

Oh, I finagled a few titles from my parents. That was long ago though. At best I'll get a lunch weekly from my father now. My mother? Being on SSDI means little spare cash. I've had to pay for my own titles without getting anything as a gift since about the time the first Bush left office - long time now.


Shut up! I'm reading. :P

Talking about Genesis titles so much makes me think of how atrocious the American box art for a lot of Genesis titles was. What possessed so many publishers to use American art for Japanese titles when the American art always seemed to be inspired by Rambo conceptual art?


I know! That always bothered the heck out of me, especially since SNES box art was generally drawn better. *remembers the Chrono Trigger box*

As a followup, what titles nowadays are disgraced by atrocious box art? I'm not the best person to ask here - which is why I ask YOU!


Well, they've gotten much better with time...How bout those 50 Cent games? Also, any kid's game needs work.

We keep speaking of films, and that means it's time to share impressions of Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. It looked really good. My eyes may have glazed over from staring at the pretty pictures for too long though.


It did look good. The story was bland, and the characters weren't all that great. And, apparently, a few years ago, someone decided to show me a picture of a naked CGI Dr. Aki Ross (That was her name, right?). I'm just so glad there are people out there with much less to do and much less of an initiative to do productive work than I have.

Now here's an odd little item from Albert Odyssey. In the opening prologue the main character, Pike, is seen as either an infant or a very young child.

The main part of the game takes place 10 years later. Based upon what we've seen of Pike, he can't be over 12 now. Yet he is the hero, and in what is considerably more off-putting, finds a girlfriend. Could Working Designs have made a typo, or are the kids today just growing up really fast?


Eh, I knew kids in elementary school with girlfriends. Sure, it was rather strange, but it happened.

Back to the Genesis for a moment - I'm currently pondering whether to try snagging Shadowrun, Crusader of Centy, and/or Herzog Zwei off eBay. Commentary here is welcomed as not a lot of info exists on these titles. I'm still in a Sega mental mode, and that means I'm going to spout off about the 32X! Knuckles Chaotix always intrigued me - slightly. Odd that Sega hasn't grabbed the game and slapped it into one of those Sonic Gems collections. Other than that, I'm drawing a big blank on even sort-of worthwhile 32X titles. Oh, yes, Doom. WERE there any?


Herzog Zwei was interesting. I just wish I had played Saga. Oh, and Chaotix was lame. Really lame. Worst Sonic game ever.

As I have never controlled a game long enough with a mouse and keyboard to become ingratiated with that layout, I give to you, Baron Ouro, the task of explaining exactly why this control setup is so prized by PC players. Selling to me of the superiority of this layout for Halo is optional.


Mouse movement is so much more precise than controller movement (This may change with the Wii). You can honestly do things much better if you can direct where you look with moving your entire hand rather than your thumb. Also, there are a ton of keys, and you can set them up whatever way you like generally. I don't know what it is, though...but I'd rather play Halo on a controller. It's the ONLY FPS that I say this about. No idea why, whatsoever.

Suggestion for RPGamer: sales charts. I'm frequently curious as to how well titles are doing, and many RPGs don't sell quite well enough to make the top 10 which is all many publications show without a lot of work. Can this be done?


Poke Aethelred about it. That guy keeps so much data it's astounding. I'm sure it probably could be done, but...we'd have to find someone to do it!

I actually delayed starting Sakura Taisen in favor of playing Panzer Dragoon Saga again before I reviewed it. Even though I'd played it twice before, the game was curiously ethereal before this week: I remembered mostly images and sounds, as if from a tantalizing dream snatched away upon awakening. This time I think I'll remember it far more concretely. And yes, everyone: it is truly great. Not many games I have played manage to differentiate themselves completely from everything else, but even 8 years on nothing I have seen indicates that any other RPG has incorporated some of the things to be found in Panzer Dragoon Saga.


I've had plenty of experiences where I'll suddenly become immersed in the game...Xenogears, Chrono Trigger, and Ocarina of Time all kept me staring at the screen, not so much because I knew I was playing a game and I -had- to get to the next area, it was because I was essentially in the game. I can still remember doing practically every movement in those games, and I can only think that it was due to that phenomenon.

Well, I took the idea from Matt, mostly cause I have a sudden case of, "Oh crap, I forgot I need to be at X!!" So...sorry, JuMeSyn, but I'll have to finish your letter tomorrow! ;_;

Combat Log

Luca Blight charges up.
Bainick moves 1 space to Tile 1.
Leaper moves 1 space to Tile 1.
Macstorm moves 1 space to Tile 1.
BLG moves 1 space to Tile 1.
Draconn moves 1 space to Tile 1.
Aurelius moves 1 space to Tile 1.
Omm moves 1 space to Tile 1.
Xlash moves 2 spaces to Tile 2.
Slashlen moves 2 spaces to Tile 2.
PureLunatic moves 2 spaces to Tile 2.
JDX moves 2 spaces to Tile 2.
Roku moves 3 spaces to Tile 3.
Donovan moves 3 spaces to Tile 3.
Slimey moves 3 spaces to Tile 3.
Bucket moves 3 spaces to Tile 3.
Genjuu moves 3 spaces to Tile 3.
Arpijy moves 3 spaces to Tile 3.
Reivax moves 3 spaces to Tile 3.
Vicissitude moves 3 spaces to Tile 3.
Tabor moves 3 spaces to Tile 3.

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Luca Blight

Well, not bad. Seems I misjudged you.

Answer to #L1: C or D.
5 Megaman games (MMX1-3, MM7, MM Soccer) x 11 FFVIII Characters (Squall, Rinoa, Quistis, Zell, Selphie, Irvine, Ward, Kiros, Laguna, Edea, Seifer) x 12 -or- 13 Dungeons (Hyrule Castle/Sewer. Could have been 1 or 2, since you go there twice, but in completely different parts, 3 Pendant dungeons, 7 Crystal dungeons, and Ganon's Tower) = 660 or 715.

#L2. Terra = G. Maxim = R. Lemina = B. Eclair = ?

A. G
B. P
C. R
D. Y
E. B
F. H

THONG Question

Answer to #1: B. Nanami.

#2. Which Xenosaga term does not belong?

B. Peche
C. Albedo
D. Sin
E. Peach

Ouro's Note: Yeah, it's a tad vague, but I'm kinda just trying to gauge how difficult I need to make these (and come on, the last one was cake :P). Buck up! They won't all be insane! Trust me, this one is doable.


I am gonna destroy XSIII tomorrow. Wish me luck! Anyone else having as much fun as I am with this game?

See you guys tomorrow, and don't forget to write in! ^^
***Josh was stunned by the boss at the end of Chapter 6.

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THONG Players:

1. Roku
Flik  TP: 1

2. Bainick
Hero 2  TP: 0

3. Macstorm
Mazus  TP: 0

4. Genjuu
Pesmerga  TP: 1

5. Leaper
Antonio  TP: 0

6. BLG
Sid  TP: 0

7. Arros Raikou
Kage  TP: 0

8. Xlash
Gijimu  TP: 0

9. Donovan
Clive  TP: 1

10. Slimey
Gadget  TP: 1

11. Bucket
Millie  TP: 1

12. Draconn
Mondo  TP: 0

13. TheBluick
Fu Su Lu  TP: 0

14. Gouden Draak
Rubi  TP: 0

15. Slashlen
Lorelai  TP: 0

16. JuMeSyn
Odessa  TP: 0

17. PureLunatic
Viktor  TP: 0

18. Alan Tse
Hoi  TP: 0

19. William.T
Killey  TP: 0

20. Arpijy
Hix2  TP: 1

20. Spiffyness
Badeaux  TP: 0

21. Reivax
Kasim  TP: 1

22. Carabbit
Viki  TP: 0

23. Vicissitude
Clive2  TP: 1

24. Kupomogli
Kinnison  TP: 0

25. JDX
Kuromimi  TP: 0

26. Aurelius
Kahn  TP: 0

27. Omm
Yoshino  TP: 0

28. Aylee
Luc  TP: 0

29. Tabor
Ted  TP: 1

Anyone else?

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